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>> yeah, i think your reading is fair, alex. the indictment suggest that is not enough but a one, that there will be an indictment. right now, we're kind of sorting out who will be a witness and will be a defender. prosecutors want to go after the bigger fish. some of these people who are fake electors or not household names. they are people who are kind of used as pawns, likely knew what they were doing but they may have some really valuable information that can help provide good incriminating evidence against some of the

>> aside from that takedown on an irish golf course, he has vowed to confront e. jean carroll, trump's own lawyer does not believe his claim that you will be taking the stand. during a sidebar conference, which was within earshot of a courtroom stenographer, nice one, mr. tacopina was heard telling judge kaplan quote, i know you understand what i'm dealing with. i know you understand what i'm dealing with. just a total attorney-client mind meld there. anyway, either way, trump has until sunday at 5 pm to officially make up his mind. however that process happens. that is our show for tonight, a...

Analyst barb mcquade. barb, thank you for being here. am i right to focus on this exchange between the prosecutor and one of the defense attorneys, where the prosecutor says, his name will be on the indictment, not a potential indictment but the indictment? >> yeah, i think your reading is fair, alex. the indictment suggest that is not enough but a one, that there will be an indictment. right now, we're kind of sorting out who will be a witness and will be a defender. prosecutors want to go after the bigger fish. some of these people who are fake electors or not household names. they are peopl...

Latest scandal as raised a bunch of new questions for the thomas family and their benefactor's, including questions about the nonprofit that leonard leo used to pay ginni thomas. according to the washington post, that nonprofit was taking in less than $50,000 a year back in 2011. but in 2012, the same years that the secret payments were made to ginni thomas, that same nonprofit suddenly pulled in 1.5 million in anonymous donations, one point $5 million and $150,000 of that money was spent on poor. who was pouring all of that money all of a sudden into leonard wheels profit? was that money secr...

Ballots. and then, of course, there is president trump himself, who is undeniably the center of all of this. we are going to have some expert help working all this not in a second, but before we do, i want to show you one thing from the legal filing that tonight's washington post reporting is based on. this is a transcript of an exchange between one of funny will assist prosecutors and the defense attorney for these fake electors. fani willis's prosecutors says, quote, here's the deal, here's the deal, either elect or he is going to get the submitted the, and he's going to answer the questions...