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Democrats in the house and harry reid, leader of senate democrats essentially saying entitlements are off the table when we know entitlements are the biggest drivers of debt. gregg: there may be a reason for that. marjorie, senator john barosso chairman of the republican policy committee put his finger on it. he believes the president is eager to go over the cliff for political reasons because he senses victory at the bottom of the cliff. those are his words verbatim and, you know, then the president gets to punish republicans. and he also might get more money in a for taxpayers, from taxpayer...

Gregg: they are letting the fire burn because the area is not secure. s.w.a.t. team members and police are certificate -fpgs now for searching for a gunman. we will continue to follow the story. heather: now to this. a new wave of federal regulations drawing fierce criticism from republicans. among others the obama administration announcing a multi-million dollar initiative aimed at reducing soot from industrial boilers and incinerators. they say the new standards are too expensive and are bad for business. they warn that new regulations trying to stop drilling and hydraulic fracturing could h...

I mean it was pretty embarrassing. has he lost control of his own party and failed in his job as leader in the house? >> well, look, speaker boehner has a very hard task and he has already tried ernestly you say a lot of things about him but can't say he hasn't tried to bring two ideas in the forefront. one that works within the bowles-simpson, bipartisan debt commission's framework of tax revenue being part of it but the majority of reform coming from spending cuts. he had the plan b which i think fairly raises threshold. gregg: that was easy for republicans to pass and he couldn't even get v...

Washington gets its act together. gregg: you're dodging my question. republicans will wish they voted for plan b, tony. tony? >> gregg, the essential point is this, we have to solve the problem. we can no longer play this game and kick the can down the road. so if we're going to do it at least give the markets, the stability, let the bush tax cuts --. gregg: last question, marjorie. the whole fiscal cliff crisis is all about finding a way to cut the $16 trillion plus debt. and yet the president is demanding new spending, more spending. is it no wonder that people think he is just not serious a...

Massacre by covering it we're sort of elevating and inspiring. i mean that just doesn't make any sense. >> i mean, a lot of what he said, a lot of the way he said a lot of these things was, like you said, a pr disaster, but i certainly think, the conversation we're not having right now is, you know, the effects of hollywood, effects of thee movies, effects of violent videogames on children. you put a guy in a flight simulator for 100 hours and take him out and let him fly a billion dollar fighter jet. gregg: right. >> all across the country you have people sitting in front of these simulator m...