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Untethered themselves from the society in which they live in. they're living in a psych graphi psychcographic instead of geographic location. >> explain. >> they're traveling in circles of other wealthy people. they're not -- i heard a story once about bob ruben riding in a towncar going somewhere in new york city calling the assistant -- the deputy mayor complaining about traffic but not knowing where he was in the city. >> this is going on -- >> that i think is what the story is. they're untethered from society. they don't want to give back and thus cannot say that they've gotten benefit fro...

Other people don't. and therefore, you know, everything is right with the world. but, of course, for instance, if you're not a job creator, if it's the middle class that are the true job creators in a capitalistic economy, then, you know, you may not deserve all the status, power and privileges you have. >> that's right. it is this question of dessert, once you start getting at that, you get somewhere very deep very quickly. you have been doing a great job speaking about this stuff. thanks for coming on tonight. >> thank you. >> nick hanhauer. thanks a lot. much more on the pathologies of th...

Have the ambition, have the motivation and have succeeded. and lots of people have come from nowhere and become part of the 1%. >> joining me now, katrina vanden heuvel, editor and publisher of "the nation" magazine. and sam seder, "majority report," co-host of the "ring of fire" radio show. i find this fascinating because the way this particular psychology emanates in policies and politics is massively destructive for the country. so i want to kind of understand it. and i think part of it does have to do with what nick hanhauer was saying about this sense that you've earned it. if someone sta...