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What's inside the bubble is bigger than what's outside the bubble. that's not to minimize the fact that a lot of people vote ford donald trump. a lot of people put a lot of hopes in him. and are going to bait to see if those hopes can be fulfilled. >> john, i asked to see you this evening because like millions of americans, i follow you on twitter. there you were yesterday with a little extra snap on your tennessee fastball. you wrote this. wondering if vice president pence has ever heard of robert hartman. he's the guy who handled the richard nixon ford transition wrote our long national nigh...

Nightmare speech. go into some detail. john, what possessed to you grab your phone and put out that? >> well, first of all, i think you get credit for not making a joke if you have three pulitzer winners and one light bulb to screw in, what happens. i want to thank you on behalf of the panel. i think that when the president's son is -- puts out a trail of e-mails that refers to a russian effort to help the trump campaign as a kind of natural part of an e-mail, it's a moment that if i were the vice president, i might start thinking a little bit about the end dramana ma here. think about we may ...

Independents is about 55 to 58%. so that's a big bubble. what's inside the bubble is bigger than what's outside the bubble. that's not to minimize the fact that a lot of people voted for donald trump. a lot of people put a lot of hopes in him. and are going to wait to see if those hopes can be fulfilled. >> john, i asked to see you this evening because like millions of americans, i follow you on twitter. there you were yesterday with a little extra snap on your tennessee fastball. you wrote this. wondering if vice president pence has ever heard of robert hartman. he's the guy who handled the r...