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Ukraine is not going to happen. >> this is not something that the uk was actually involved in. this was an idea that the polish would send their make 20 nines to ukraine, and the americans got involved, saying that they might replace the polish fleet. now, the polish always thought that this was high risk for them to do on their own -- they took the risk of russia deciding to escalate this. -- joining the war. even a week ago, this looked very tricky. i understand that boris johnson has been involved in these discussions. he talked in the post prime minister about it when he was there last wee...

That the ukrainian pilots are trained to fly. you would have to fly them from point a to point b, point a , the place from where the planes should be flown to ukraine, poland or the ramstein air force base will be a hostile point of origin. having said that , this discussion should not even be public. i don't understand why our discussion over arming ukraine covertly has now become a public debate on twitter. this should have been done months ago. this should have been weeks ago. this should have been done by picking up a phone call in d.c. calling warsaw, calling bratislava, calling any of th...

Soldiers or pilots to ukraine. but anything short of that, i think we have to do, it and we have to do it now. >> and why do you think we haven't? >> well, the biden administration, with respect to the mig-29 plains from poland. this back and forth, the polish originally said they were gonna give it to us, and then we didn't want them, we said it would be risky. but they say is they're worried about escalation from putin, they're also worried about the logistics of how do you get those make 20 nines there, and where they will fly from. those are legitimate questions, i want to be clear about t...

Zelenskyy once president zelenskyy once is close. this guy's in force a no fly zone force the russians back and give us time to get our people out. a humanitarian no fly zone. that's exactly what he wants and right now it appears he will not get it. jonathan, back to you in moments the recent shelling of two nuclear facilities in ukraine by russian forces demonstrate the extent of vladimir putin's determination to win this war. with me now, retired u.s. army lieutenant colonel daniel davis. he is a veteran of afghanistan war and now a senior fellow with defense priorities. colonel, it's always...

Here? >> my understanding is they were surprised by the announcement we i know they were surprised, by that announcement. it is a request just to be clear that president zelenskyy has been making, privately and publicly, directly to president duda, the president of poland. instead of making that -- he made it to us, and they said, you deal with the problem. the military issue is is there airport left that is sufficiently long enough that you can use mick 20 nines from. i'm not a military expert, but i talk to them every day and they say that's the critical military issue here. i think the poli...