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Voting. imagine that, jake, united states of america, we now can describe fear in the hearts of american citizens at the prospect of going and voting. that is absolutely shameful. it is the maga republicans who are responsible, particularly people like my opponent who continue to, without any evidence, push the big lie. it's a disgrace and it's embarrassing. >> didn't your opponent, mark finchem, didn't he say he wouldn't count any of the ballots from maricopa county, which is the most populous county in arizona, where you were an office holder? >> yeah, i was the county recorder who ran the 2...

Embarrassing. >> didn't your opponent, mark finchem, didn't he say he wouldn't count any of the ballots from maricopa county, which is the most populous county in arizona, where you were an office holder? >> yeah, i was the county recorder who ran the 2020 election that was subject to the cyber ninja audit. i know these systems inside and out. and mr. finchem does not. he has no idea what he's talking about. his conspiracy theories are based completely in lies and ignorance. for him to make any proposals about not counting american ballots really lays bare his fealty to one person, this kind o...

Cohort were doing was they were basically saying throw out all those. forget about all the americans who went to the polls and voted early or went to the polls on election day. and let's leave it up to the -- to the secretary of state in georgia. find me 11,780 votes or to the speaker of the house in arizona, find me the 11,000 votes. forget about that. you guys can handle it, and we'll turn a defeat into a victory. it was a naked grab for power. one last thing. you had an audit in maricopa county, the phoenix area in arizona which was the margin of difference between biden and trump in arizon...

Trump lost arizona, not once, not twice, but a third time, thanks to the ninja audit, is because republicans, there were a certain amount of republicans that have had enough of donald trump. they don't like what he did as president, they don't like the vitriol, they know he's not someone who should be serving. so i think that it is a political cry. i think it's also something that donald trump keeps having these rallies because he knows if he's quiet for too long, the people will go on without him. i don't think that he has his grip so much on them as they do on him. >> so meantime, we have te...

When we understand the danger of them. what does confrontation look like? what does fighting it look like? what>> there are different piecs to. it first, it is seeing this for what it is. we heard about the cyber ninja audit in arizona. the similar thing is happening in pennsylvania and wisconsin, now here. so, recognizing that trend. recognizing in the state of texas, it's not just this audit. the state just passed legislation that creates this veil of criminality around elections. basically, it sets trump's so that innocent mistakes that routinely happen and routinely are dealt with by offic...