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Business if not for the artists. >> irving was the guy who really believed in us that i thought could do something to help us. >> i basically hired a lawyer and went in after i said the eagles would like their publishing back, to which the obvious response was no. he sort of drew a line in the sand and declared war. so i felt for my survival as their manager i needed to prove to them that i wasn't afraid of geffen and would stand up and -- you know, the lawsuit was filed as a last resort. i don't think david liked reading his name in a lawsuit. >> i think it was incredibly fun -- ungrateful. a...

The iranians say, forget it, that's it, we're done as well and we're just going to start redeveloping our nuclear program. they chose, instead, to, you know, work with the europeans who have remained parties to the deal, along with russia and china. >> yeah. >> and to try to find a way around it. you know, will trump push them into a corner now is an interesting question, but i do think david is making an important point. there is a through line of the trump foreign policy that is really all around organizing and isolating iran and seeing iran as the focus of american efforts in the middle eas...

This from a president who often doesn't tell the truth, who personally insults people and is certainly a bad influence on america's children. but that's the state of affairs in the trump presidency. people know it. voters know it. it's the reality we're living through. >> so, chris, they're retiring but not for 14 months. >> right. >> so why now? why did they feel they needed to make these statements now? >> i think when you think about your next election particularly given the cost of these elections you have to sort of make these decisions about now. you simply can't wait and wait and wait. ...

Know, he does his things and i do mine, he would have had a decent to better than decent chance of winning a primary. >> any poll you look at says you have at least -- chris andy talking about this yesterday -- at least two out of three people who identify as republican are for trump. so you go out, you're technically going out on a limb. >> of course. i know he went out on a limb with the book i didn't know his political standing. >> alisyn, i would say he had -- this was not a lock before he wrote about donald trump, but he was in a much better place within the republican party than he was a...

That pershing did this horrific thing and from a muslim's point of view, they believe if you're infected with pig's blood, you're going to hell, not heaven. i think what he was endorsing was a very strong-handed response to terrorism is the only way we're going to put this down and by extension, by extension, some of the people who were in charlottesville on the right, you know, his argument would be they were facing, you know, thugs, and they had to respond in a thuggish way, and we all know that's not true. but i think that's his world view. >> david, do you agree with that? that there is a ...