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i think it's probably best that people work through it some more. i don't think voting tonight will be any different, but i think the vote in the future will. >> do you have a deal yet? >> not yet. a lot of progress. good morning, everyone. poppy and i are here and kaitlan is on capitol hill. day three of the speaker election, there she is. kaitlan, how you holding up? we've been saying since day one -- you were there tuesday and it could go longer and it's playing out like you said. >> we expected it to go longer and now it has. when does it end? >> kevin mccarthy's desperate bid ...

Which he is, that trumpism takes hold. at the same time i don't want to be totally dark. there are signs of optimism here. the question will be are there members of congress, which i would be in this position four days ago, as mccarthy starts giving concessions -- look, have no doubt, he'll give any concession it takes to be speaker. he'll make all 20 of these people chairman. the question is when do the moderates or normal republicans get off the band wagon. if you declared yourself only kevin, you have to negotiating power. if you haven't you'll talk to democrats about a candidate. >> people...

Interviews have been so great. that warren davidson conversation was stunning to listen to, to hear him say maybe kevin can't pull this off, and there comes a point -- >> zinky was the one for me, saying this is embarrassing and at some point you've got to do something. >> yes, saying the fact that this is happening out in front -- >> republicans were touting it saying this is how democracy works. the fact he says it's embarrassing and actually hurting them. >> kaitlan, thank you, we'll see you tomorrow on tv, not in new york. >> thank you for being with us. "cnn newsroom" is after this. >> ha...

Mccarthy will get to 218. we'll see. mick mulvaney says he thinks he'll stay in there, his resolve in strong. it remains to be seen, don and poppy. >> the question is, kaitlan, what is the alternative to kevin mccarthy? you can say -- you can have people who say only kevin, only kevin. people say no kevin, no kevin. what is the alternative? in order to get to the alternative -- this is why i'm predicting you're not going to be here tomorrow -- you'll have to vote on who that alternative is and everybody will have to come to a consensus on that. >> one thing also to watch, does that alternative...

Together and vote for kevin mccarthy, correct me if i'm wrong, kevin lost a vote. what does this say about the political influence, the waning political influence of the former president? is it really a party of one for him do you believe at this point? >> i don't think yet. to put it on -- view the science of what's going on. trump may be fading as an influence. he still has serious influence. to diminish him is dangerous. trumpism has taken hold in the party and it's being learned by people. trump may not be an issue, but this idea of the way to be a good republican is to own the libs, to sa...