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Where you guys lose because it's a federal holiday. i understand you don't want it to be a federal holiday. >> i would say -- i think that's a no win argument 'cause that's not going to change. >> bill: let me ask awe simple question. i'm a very simple man. do you want christmas to be a federal holiday? >> i don't think it should be. >> bill: tell the audience why. >> because it's a very religious holiday and i don't believe the government ought to be promoting one particular religion. >> bill: can't you see jesus as a man? that's the purpose of christmas. >> sure it is. >> bill: i. >> i think...

A federal holiday. i understand you don't want it to be a federal holiday. >> i would say -- i think that's a no win argument 'cause that's not going to change. >> bill: let me ask awe simple question. i'm a very simple man. do you want christmas to be a federal holiday? >> i don't think it should be. >> bill: tell the audience why. >> because it's a very religious holiday and i don't believe the government ought to be promoting one particular religion. >> bill: can't you see jesus as a man? that's the purpose of christmas. >> sure it is. >> bill: i. >> i think diminishes religion -- >> bill: ...

Where you guys lose because it's a federal holiday. i understand you don't want it to be a federal holiday. >> i would say -- i think that's a no win argument 'cause that's not going to change. >> bill: let me ask awe simple question. i'm a very simple man. do you want christmas to be a federal holiday? >> i don't think it should be. >> bill: tell the audience why. >> because it's a very religious holiday and i don't believe the government ought to be promoting one particular religion. >> bill: can't you see jesus as a man? that's the purpose of christmas. >> sure it is. >> bill: i. >> i think...

Prize, he took that opportunity to articulate a philosophy of war. >> of why you needed it. >> and now you have romney trying to get to the right of the president on iran, and on syria, to your point, joe about, a war weary nation, who wants right now -- republican or democrat, wants to see boots on the ground in syria? who wants to see that region further militaryized? you can't beat him by saying he is too soft. to try to get to the right of him on the few places where you might get to the right of him goes against the vast weight of the american opinion. it is a no win argument. >> gail, mi...