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About his experience as the first term senator but his home state florida rivalry with jeb bush. kind of like a soap opera kind of thing. then the new york observer that found a picture of marco rubio in high school participating in a play in which he was a chippendale. he was in high school. and i think the reason here is that a lot of the press which is slavishly follows the polls and concluded way prematurely that he doesn't have a serious shot at the nomination which i don't think is true. >> okay. but here's the question. eventually hillary clinton has to come out of the cocoon and speak ...

But here's the question. eventually hillary clinton has to come out of the cocoon and speak to reporters. how are they going to treat her? i don't know that slobbering love affair that they had with president obama will be there. what do you think? >> i don't think so. i think we have actually a sneak preview if we look at the book tour which was kind of her prepresidential wink and a nod rollout. you know, there was some soft interviews. she got a lot of tough questions. she was so rusty she made mistakes like saying that she was dead broke when she and her husband left the white house. i don...