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And they did and when you look back at the past year, i think that it is perfectly legitimate to say that we're looking at, perhaps, the most conservative victories that we have had certainly since reagan and, perhaps even farther back than that. >> martha: guy, you were definitely in that camp a couple years ago that did not want him to be the guy in that nominating process. what do you think when you watch him go through that litany of what he is calling his accomplishments? would you be cheering in that crowd there today? >> i would have clapped along to a lot of what he said. maybe not all...

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Interest to somebody who could lose the presidency. the biden prospect is stilt there. had to have read the polls that joe biden was beating top republican contenders while hillary clinton was losing to them. right? >> well issue did good to the dnc and they told me, as you might expect, flatly, they're trying to run an impartial primary process. i said tell me on the record, just for clarity, tell me this is not the kind of party you are, that the democratic national committee would not play a gender politics with this nominating process. please tell me you're not doing this. they wouldn't sp...

And she has that freshness of being the first woman. >> without question. i think she would have the edge going in. i think bush would be a formidable general election candidate because he does have ties to the hispanic community, is fluent in spanish. his wife is hispanic. so he has an affinity with that community. he also is someone who's been willing to take on the party on immigration reform, on education reform. so that's been one of the failings of republican candidates in the last couple of cycles, is the unwillingness to take on the base. the real question, though, the reason they didn...

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