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I think we'll get a sense how he's going to straddle the word libertarian and conservative. he'll be different than all the other nominees. >> he has a chance to stand out. in terms of a new fox news poll, in terms of nominee preference among primary republican voters, he's kind of creeping up here a bit. 9%. >> back in the pack, but it's within the margin of error. >> look at the points, they're all pretty close. walker has 15%. jeb bush has 12. carson is hanging on with 11%. ted cruz, huckabee. then you see rand paul with 9%. >> what's going in his favor he's a likable guy. you can take a lo...

Up for their first face off and we have first polls in the democratic field. they show among other things that hillary clinton is losing support as the democratic nominee preference. she is down 16 points since june and bernie sanders and still undecided vice president biden gained some ground. 10 and eight percentage points respectively. we have eric fern strom, former mitt romney advisor on his 2008 and 2012 campaigns. chris kofinis, former director of communications for senator john edwards. welcome to you both. with the numbers should the hillary clinton campaign be nervous? >> well if you...