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They don't seem in their testimony, there does not seem outrage that the president may have done something for his political gain. it was the cost of it. there are quid pro quo that don't harm anybody but they're making the case that this is not one of them. harming the u.s./ukraine recissi relationship is against the national security interests of america. >> ukraine is plcritical. the united states have been working with ukraine for decades to try to rule out corruption. we were trying to get rid of corruptions in this country which is a common stance that the president have also had. the di...

Is that a miscarriage of your duties as national security adviser to advise the president, if you do not inform your boss what happened? >> our colleague sources are saying it didn't immediately raise a red flag. and maybe it never did because the vice president then went, on september 1st, a month and a week later, to meet with zelensky -- >> with briefing paper. >> -- with briefing paper talking about the need to tamp down on corruption. at that time in zelensky's mind, corruption means investigate joe biden. whether or not the vice president did that knowingly or not, wittingly or unwitting...

From doing that. what does it mean for how bound we are all are by the guardrails? >> i've never seen anything quite like this before, chris. there has been no pushback at all on corruption, maladministration, lies and everything else we have seen from any republican in the house or senate. and what i believe at this point, this is not a traditional political party that we've been used to in the past. it's more like a cult. it's not a party of philosophy anymore. it's a party of theology. it's a cult of personality. and if people stay, if they don't speak up, then they're going to have to swal...

You with us. that is the operative first question. what are you so concerned about? >> it has nothing to do with whether or not there would be an investigation. i love how the "courier journal" reminds people since 1868 they have had ten pulitzers. ask them the last time they had one. it was the 1980s. the last time they wrote anything that won them a pulitzer prize. they have been a shadow of what they once were. the thing i'm calling out is not the fact that an investigation of anything is going on. they should do that. we need transparent government. i encourage people to dig in to all face...

There has to be something coming through the house of representatives that will deal with very pressing issues. >> we're talking about florida here. the latino vote. take a step back for me and talk about what you've seen tonight and what it says about the country. >> i think it was a big night for american liberty. a big night. it's important to think about what tonight was a referendum on. and i think it was a referendum on racism and on demagoguery and on xenophobia, on sex i, on lies, the abuse of power, on corruption. and i think the two stories coming out of that. the story number one is...