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thank you, ali, for that reporting. that does it for us today. see you back here tomorrow beginning at 10:00 a.m. you can catch our show online around the clock on youtube and other platforms. i'm ana cabrera from new york. andrea mitchell picks up our coverage. >> right now, fright night. the fight night that biden and trump campaigns are gearing up for. their first face off at this week's debate, but the candidates are taking very different approaches to their warm ups. on today's second anniversary of the dobbs decision, abortion is front and center along with the other debate t...

That it was stopped by the fbi with social media. it was damaging. we now know after the election that a single digit percentage was maybe 6% or 7% of biden voters said that would have affected their vote if they had known. isn't this also about character? about the nature of who people are, which then informs how they look and view us? if you are going to ignore your seventh grandchild as a non-entity, what do you think they think of all of us strangers who aren't even related to them? >> that is quite an insightful point, tammy, because what we have seen with joe biden as a politician is tha...

Show, it pisses's them off. >> as of the first time you've been off in a while. you were on tucker. that set all the alarms off whe you went on tucker. that is like having a meal with the antichrist. >> they hate it when i am on fo that's the only place that will have me anyway. it is kind of like, you know, they have done and their power to make me a non-entity. but here i am very popular. >> greg: guest, you are. michael has turned you into a folk hero. i'm accomplishing it slowly and surely. in a matter of years you will b vindicated how do you feel abou that that you have a family tha who ...

Supply chains and pete buttigieg is talking about marriage equality or flowers, i don't know what he's talking about but he's not talking about the issues that we care about. and yet he's beating biden in new hampshire. how significant is that? or not? >> yeah. well, imagine how desperate you have to be as a political party in america to think that small town mayor pete could be your presidential savior. this is how desperate they all are. i mean, mayor pete, let's face it, he's done a horrible job as transportation secretary. he had no qualifications for the job to begin with, laura, as we kn...

To tell you the real truth. in some way, they profit off of that distrust. >> you know, ben, picking up on this, what is the larger goal here of these groups, beyond sowing doubt in vaccines, or expressing their distrust an institution? >> you're not going to believe this, jonathan, it's power, influence and money. that's what it's about, at this point. a lot of these people, in the last two years, have developed these large fan bases. the guy at the center of this whole thing, robert malone, he was on the joe rogan show a couple days ago. that's what really spurred this whole thing on. he was...