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Gunshot sound and then the screaming stopped. >> we'll talk exclusively with that 13-year-old boy's mom in a live report and live interview next. plus, who is the state attorney, norm wolfinger, and why didn't he press charges? and another huge day for the health care industry and decision at the supreme court. we know republicans don't like obama-care, so what's their plan? all rig oh, right. they don't have one. you're watching "politics nation" live from washington on msnbc.

Whole situation is that all of this has occurred due to a blatant lack of communication. if the state attorney is going to claim that this was a self-defense claim, which by law he would have to find george zimmerman's account for credible than that of trayvon martin and what the evidence has shown thus far, then we owe it -- the community is owed that the state attorney explain why he is siding on zimmerman's side. he's failed to do that. >> ryan vescio and kendall coffey, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> thank you, reverend. ahead, i've seen this playbook over ...

Not believe zimmerman's story. there was an incident where zimmerman was taken back to the scene. they did a re-enactment. they looked at his clothing and took his gun. after the homicide detective talked to him, he didn't believe him. he did a written affidavit saying he didn't believe him and he should be arrested. >> ben crump, this could be a huge development if the source is correct. i mean, isn't this very unusual for the lead state attorney to come, himself, and meet with the head of the police and the head investigator the night of a murder? of a killing? >> reverend sharpton, it sugge...

When you add up these facts, it just doesn't seem to make sense. when you listen to the 911 tape from zimmerman, himself, and the phone records from trayvon's girlfriend, you know, you have him on that 911 call saying he's running. and you have that young lady on the phone saying he's following me. it's one of those things that that makes sense, that zimmerman pursued and stopped trayvon and he was the aggressive. now, why the state attorney was saying this is not enough makes absolutely no sense. >> now, ben, tracy, the father of trayvon said on a taping on this show that something didn't add...

Welcome back. the mother of a witness on the night trayvon martin was killed says the lead investigator told her self-defense was not applicable here. and a meeting later that night between the state's attorney and the chief of police, we have a lot to talk about. on this case. joining me now is ryan, a democrat running to replace norm wolfinger as state attorney for the 18th district when he retires this fall. also, with me is criminal defense lawyer and former u.s. attorney, kendall coffey. thank you for both being here tonight. >> thank you, reverend. >> kendall, let me go to you. you were ...