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Because you had previously left working with trump. >> yes, the tragedy of trump's if donald trump would've walked away the day after the election, and basically said, okay. i want to challenge everything. and when i lose the challenge is, if i do, i want to run again. he would be 30 points ahead. the activity since then, to talk about what he did as president. people are out there supporting him. like when he was president. and the reality is, they don't like what he has done of the the next president, that's the issue here. no one has ever, in the historian, or the presidential scholar for t...

That a lot of workers that would have come here no longer want to risk coming to florida. we're seeing this in realtime take place and these legislatures are saying what have you done for us. >> and christina, the thing is, clearly desantis made a calculation that anti blackness and anti lgbtq fury alone would get him past trump but if you read "the new york times" piece, the people who are the most angry at black folks and gay folks and trans people, they still like trump better. he's fine and doing all that wild stuff but i still prefer trump. so he's not gotten anywhere. even 22% who say tr...

Desantis. he's a terrible retail politician. he goes on these interviews, he seems charmless and hostile. you watch these speeches, and it's like he's screaming at you. that -- american people don't elect that person. so luckily for us, the guy who's the biggest danger to democracy is also a terrible retail politician. >> so, tim miller, what's your assessment of desantis now? we've seen, when he came out of the gate, he was leading. it's hard to remember now, but he was actually leading donald trump for a while, and things have completely flipped since then. he's trailing by an average of 28 ...

Governor? is that risking too much looking like the incumbent governor and not an insurgeant? i would not expect to see desantis drop his anti-woke rhetoric anytime soon. it's been key to who he is as a personality on the national stage. it's been what's raised his brand to the national stage from florida governor. so i don't expect to see that go anytime soon, especially given his recent comments now going after bud light yet again. stepping into those culture war issues he is so favorable of. i think we're going to continue to see that be a part of his campaign, and part of his pitch to diff...

Earlier and they were saying that if tucker were still on air kevin mccarthy wouldn't be able to say those kinds of. things, and i think that that's kind of an alignment of the maga republican political base and that part of the conservative media is very tight. and i think it's something we're gonna see a lot more. from >> right because remember how ron desantis walked back on ukraine. it was on tucker carlson's show when that happened. that was one of the largest most important voices. that's a great point. >> i wonder what ron desantis is going to do now. >> well, not desantis, last, night ...