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China as well, that they play an important role. it's an acknowledgement to china that they are keeping them in mi mind, because china is nervous about being left out of the loop. >> and they're the biggest beneficiary if u.s. troops withdraw, or denuclearization, the country benefitting the most is china. >> it's china. if everything turns to a level of normalcy we've never seen before, china's concerned that the capital of that peninsula, if there were to be reunification, it would be in seoul, not pyongyang. china doesn't want that. so that's why i don't see the additional step of reunifica...

Not just the iran deal going forward, but iran's destabilizing activity, the fight against i.c.e. and, of course, our bilateral relations with china and russia which are momentous. i think they're going to have at least my expectation is they will have a normal conversation about that. >> but the president seems to be -- i mean help us determine what this means. when asked by "forbes" about are your statements undermining tillerson's ability to do his job, like when he tweeted out a week and a half ago, don't worry about north korea, i got this one, rex tillerson, he said i'm not undermining, ...

Made by washington and not pyongyang. >> this is when he called kim jong-un little rocket man. take a look at this. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. north korea best not make anymore threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> he has called kim jong-un short and fat in a tweet. so what do you think is behind this 180? do you think that he is underestimating kim jong-un? do you think he really think he's changed? >> i think that president trump is genuinely hope fal they may be able to work out a deal i...

>> they're working him, you know that. >> they're flattering him in the same way other people are. and i don't think the white house understands so far the dawn sessions have really been made by washington and not pyongyang. >> this is when he called kim jong-un little rocket man. take a look at this. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself and for his regime. north korea best not make anymore threats to the united states. they will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. >> he has called kim jong-un short and fat in a tweet. so what do you think is behind this 180? ...