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>> that was 9 1/2 months ago. is it any clearer now what that strategy is? >> no, and there really isn't much separate from what the justice department is doing which is trying to use the power that they have in the courts to try to overturn some of the state laws that have passed, and you put up on the screen some really important changes that we've seen on the really local level which with voting, that matters a lot. but if you take it up a few no no no notches just to the state level, i spent time in georgia, in arizona, in texas, with state legislatures, particularly republicans, who almos...

Today mr. caputo is the sole by line on this scoop. the nbc justice correspondent pete williams contributed reporting to this as well. if you want a little peek behind the curtain here as to how those of us in the nbc news family read scoops from our own shop like this, you should know, like i said, mark caputo an unparalleled reporter in terms of florida politics. but pete williams being a contributing reporter on this as well, pete williams is like the emperor of the kingdom of understatement. when everybody else has their hair on fire about something going on in the criminal justice system ...

Then. he could. right now the chinese and the russians have the closest, closest strategic relationship, personal relationship between president xi and putin, intelligence sharing that there's ever been. so i think they both want to take the united states and western allies down a few notches. if putin can do that and do it in such a way that it is not a full invasion, a takeover of ukraine but more bringing ukraine into its sphere of influence, i think president xi would go along with that. >> ian, let me ask you about a question we touched on this weekend. i have been hearing, and of course ...

Room that is been missing for a long time. not only did he say when he needed to say about his leadership in this effort, and how he has unified the west, and freedom loving countries in a way that the previous president was not interested in doing. he show that it made a difference, and i think that he got a huge round of applause, notches from democrats, but republicans. that's truly worth noticing. >> it wasn't just americans watching the, world is watching. take us to the kremlin. you know war, and you certainly know vladimir putin. would it be here tonight? >> well, i think the russians, ...

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