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In the white house. calls with foreign leaders with cia directors, it's a white house staffer or sometimes someone from the nsc dechltsz but everyone who gets notes of every call with a foreign leader should either lawyer up or get ready to walk up to capitol hill and testify as to whether or not they knew having a foreign leader investigate a political opponent because if they knew, they may have some exposure around the hatch act and other violations. >> right. i think one of the questions is how widely this stuff would've been circulated. you probably know better than i do. there is obvious...

State visit day, all of the tension are reporting out a story like this that has potentially very enormous consequences for the white house. we have tried to get any kind of additional clarification from white house officials. we've been given no comment repeatedly, talked to multiple officials that will not engage on this issue beyond what the president himself has said. broadly, chuck, i think one thing that might be helpful for viewers is to understand when calls like this happen between president trump and another world leader, what is unclear to us now from talking to multiple officials a...

Phone. it does seem like if those are all clues that "the post" has been able to ferret out it should be able to narrow it down in terms of the time frame and the potential things that could be within the realm of factual four corners that this could be. >> yes. it does mean -- keep in mind, rachel, the president speaks to a lot of foreign leaders every day. and some which are not obvious to us or recorded for posterity meaning there have been a lot of stories about the president having conversations that are not -- there are no note takers. we don't know for certain exactly whom he was speaki...

Communication by the president, it was a communication by the president with a foreign leader, it was a troubling promise that he made, in that it was a conversation by phone. it does seem like if those are all clues that "the post" has been able to ferret out, that should be able to narrow it down in terms of the time frame and the potential things that could be within the realm of factual four corners that this could be. >> yes. i mean, it does mean -- keep in mind, rachel, the president speaks to a lot of foreign leaders every day. and some which are not obvious to us or recorded for poster...

Join us now is ryan goodman, co-editor in chief. let's start with the william barr declassification part of this scenario. vladimir putin surely wants to know who this kremlin source was. >> 100%. >> donald trump has been known to invite various high leaders of russia into the oval office without any americans present, to take phone calls with vladimir putin without any american note-takers and to be extremely solicitous of vladimir putin. is there a danger now that through the work of william barr, vladimir putin gets to find out who it was that gave us this information? >> i think so. that's...