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Kushner's statement. it is so obvious to me from looking at both of those statements that it's not lawyers who are real hi putting together this defense, but it's trump. >> again, what may look obvious to you isn't necessarily something that could be used in a legal case. >> it certainly could. all you have to d is take those two statements and compare them. look what he has donald jr. say. he said they were talk about i adoption, nothing sinister, and the meeting ended and nothing happened afterward. he's got jared kushner parachuting into the meeting five minutes in so he doesn't hear anythi...

O'malley's campaign that that was designed to help hillary clinton. so i'll just ask you straight up -- is the democratic national committee putting its thumb on the scale in favor of senator clinton? >> joy, i mean let's think about this. does it make any sense at all that the chair of a national party would want fewer voters to see our candidates? i don't control the schedule of the networks. we have three of our debates that are on network television, and those are on saturday nights. we have three other debates that are during the week. unfortunately, broadcast network programming is less ...