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And the ukrainian government there was giving information about -- remember, about that it was against president trump's, one of his campaign managers. >> i think it was a little different. nobody was meeting with any senior people of the clinton campaign, and the person that was -- >> but the law wouldn't be any different. the question is the legal question. is there any illegality, anything wrong with a meeting that took place here. the meeting takes place. it's not illegal. >> is it ethical? >> you are in the middle of a campaign. opposition research is very common. we've been covering thes...

Ukrainian government was giving information about one of his campaign managers. >> it was a little different. nobody was meeting with any senior people of the clinton campaign. >> the lull wouldn't be any different. is there anything wrong with the meeting that took place here. it's not illegal. >> what about ethical? >> you're in the middle of a campaign. so opzisposition research is ve common. >> yeah, but not from russians. >> yeah, but, you look at the context. it's a meeting that ends up where they evidently, purportedly ends up not being the case, opposition research on hillary clinton. ...