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Good reason. so if main justice is now interested in this, how worried should rudy be tonight? how much legal jeopardy do you think he is looking at? >> there are two ways to look at it. one is, uh-oh, more resources more fbi agents. they are looking at 50 bank accounts and they have wire taps and all kinds of things in those cases. so he is in more trouble. that's one way to look at it. the other is, oh, main justice is there. now barr is a little more involved. now they know exactly what's going on in the southern district of new york. you could look at it a conspiracy way as well, that ther...

How much legal jeopardy do you think he is looking at? >> there are two ways to look at it. one is, uh-oh, more resources more fbi agents. they are looking at 50 bank accounts and they have wire taps and all kinds of things in those cases. so he is in more trouble. that's one way to look at it. the other is, oh, main justice is there. now barr is a little more involved. now they know exactly what's going on in the southern district of new york. you could look at it a conspiracy way as well, that there is a chance that barr is more able to intervene. and i have to tell you, you know me, i was f...

>> well, there's two ways to look at. one is uh-oh, more agents. they' the other way to look at it is, oh, main justice is there. now barr is a little more involved. now there are -- they know exactly what's going on in the southern district of new york. you can look at it a conspiracy way as well, that there is a chance that barr is more able to intervene. and i have to tell you, you know me, i was for barr coming in as an institutionalist. fool me once, you know, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. so i am suspicious of anything that happens now that has barr's fingerprints on it. and ...

Nonpartisan and apolitical. it was supposed to be guise was supposed to be was that he was pursuing an investigation of the origins of this, looking into it, someone that was going b to be fair. now barr's involvement is further undercutting this and make it seem like a partisan game. >> harry, jump in on this. >> i agree 100% with natasha and i would add one thing. there's now this sort of buddy movie, the bill and don show, going around the country so not simply that he's you know, put his foot on the scale. attorneys general do that, but he's doing this in conjunction with the president who...

Certain set of behaviors. but mueller is, you know, his own man and when the attorney general opens the door, and i don't think barr has totally thought this through because barr's typical strategy is suppress, muzzle, muzzle, when he said that he was trying to take a pot shot at mueller by saying, oh, you could have reached a conclusion, not fully realizing the chess board and the fact that this hearing is now about to happen, and it occurs under a very different circumstance than when mueller turned in his report. when mueller turned in thhis report, he thought the rule was i can't indict a ...