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Spoke ton kim jong-un and he's dodged the question bp this is not a president -- one of those -- strikes me as the kind of guy, if he talked to kim jong-un he would want to tell you they had the conversation and what they talked about. do you get the sense they have, perhaps, had conversations on the telephone? >> beats the heck out of me. i mean, when the president says something, it's not exactly something you can take to the bank. so, you know, it's possible he's had some indirect conversations. it seems there must be more than just the messages he's heard through the south koreans. so i wo...

Researchers have taken a look in the "washington post" fact checker from president trump and found the spread now l presiden more often. 4.9 falsehoods per day in his first days in the oval office. now 9 lies per day. the researcher joins me from san francisco, an associate professor of cognitive neurosciences at university college london and the author of "the influential mind" and dana milbank, an influential mind. also is a columnist for the "washington post" and joins ow conversation as well. let me start with the researcher here. you looked into the science of lying. simple question. why ...