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Now, she implied that they -- that they anticipated gaining money, that they were going to sue and get rich off of this. >> part of the lawsuit, you bet. >> first of all, that meant each of them independently came up with this idea. because when we asked them about the case, they recanted. >> well, maybe you suggested they might want to sue. >> we suggested it? >> how would that conversation go? we would sit down and say there's this guy in prison and we know he molested you a bunch of years ago, but why don't you come in and help us get him out of prison. but then maybe you can come in and su...