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Testify, nancy pelosi to testify and really describing this as this made for tv moment, made for court tv moment that this president particularly is drawn to, believing that this could be used as an opportunity for his allies and the obviously republican controlled senate to defend him and take down democrats and be able to use this as an argument to voters heading into 2020. >> we're happy to be able to talk to you. normally your 21 hour workday prevents you from being on our shift. let's expand on the question you asked the speaker and where you put the effort to either let it go or to avoid...

Especially on the judiciary committee who feel like the obstruction laid out in the mueller report is part of a pattern, part of the same objective behavior you are seeing from the president even now refusing to comply with subpoenas, to come and testify. there are some democrats who would like to see that included in whatever the house committees produce. it doesn't have to be a separate article. but they think it is instructive and all part of the same issue here. i think frankly there are probably some house democrats who have been dealing with this issue for so long on the mueller report, ...

And talk about his own conduct. but he may have to be a little bit clearer when he addresses this. and frankly being angry with voters and arguing with voters, it just looks like he's lost control. >> this is an out of nowhere question, but it's absolutely right there and germane to everything we see every day. can you tell me how the democrats are going to end up with an all-white stage at the next debate? how did that happen? >> well, you know, there's not much a pipeline, so that's one thing to consider. i also think that black voters interestingly enough in supporting joe biden, for exampl...

Is. the move to this crucial stage of the impeachment process comes against the backdrop of pelosi's tortured history with this president. and on that subject, this morning after she made her remarks, she heard a question from a reporter that she decided to answer on the spot fully and personally. >> do you hate the president, madam speaker? >> i don't hate anybody. i don't -- i don't hate anybody, not anybody in the world. so don't accuse me. >> i did not accuse you. i asked a question. representative collins yesterday suggested that the democrats are doing it because they don't like the guy....