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Mentally insane or b criminals. >> maria, 7 out of 10. that sounds like a big number and that's a broad question that they want stricter gun control laws, is there a problem that democrats have not been able to hone the message and specifically put substantive piece of legislation behind this idea of stricter gun control? >> no, i don't think it's been a problem of democrats at all when you have had many bills in the past that focus on universal background checks which 97% of americans support. it's not a problem of democrats, it's a product of politicians bought and paid for by the nra. and w...

Credit. sometimes my friends on political left for get to do, actually acknowledge this is very much like a nixon goes to china type moment where we're seeing president trump step forward. going back to e-mail, i said that is not something i would have signed off or been on board with at all but also, let's call balls and strikes here. i'm sure there are plenty of left to center and democrats out there sending out fund raising e-mails as well. let's call it both ways. >> i'm sure this isn't the first time it's happened on either side of the aisle. >> on the speech, ryan, just a couple of thing...

Happened the last few weeks? >> what's interesting about that, actually the majority of nra members also agree that we should have universal background checks but yet the nra as an organization does not want to pass any kind of legislation that would keep any kind of weapon out of any kind of american's hands regardless of whether they should have it or not. i think that is the bottom line. they don't want to do anything and you just have to listen to wayne lapierre's speech, anybody that is looking for any kind of legislation additional gun legislation want to take away your freedom. that is ...

The nra's policy, contrary to how it may look from the outside. it's the membership through the elected board of directors of the nra that sets nra's policy. >> from your perspective, what created your disillusionment with the nra? why did you decide to write the book? >> i wasn't so much disillusi disillusioned with nra, i'm a member and support what they stand for. there are times and this isn't one of them now, that nra is more interested in the politics of the interessue that could be of the brady campaign and every interest group in this country is more focused sometimes on the politics t...

Tighter gun laws, last week quinnipiac came out with a poll that showed 97% of americans support some form of background check. how is it that despite all of this public opinion and some of this opinion i should say comes from nra members as well, why does the nra still have such a strangle hold on any kind of substantive change to the gun laws? >> well, when you talk about the nra for starters, you're talking about the nra leadership or membership? because there are multiple nras and the nra leadership doesn't have a strangle hold on anyone. what gives the nra the power it does is what any gr...