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Yes. democrats, 18%, independents, 33%. we heard from bill clinton who said part of the reason why you have this antigovernment sentiment in part is because you have an african-american president. do you believe that's true? >> no. those same voters right there elected an african-american president. and knew it. it wasn't a secret. but it wasn't a divisive agenda. he was a very different candidate than he's been a president. you know, he's really turned out to be more of george mcgovern. he's grown government when he said we'd have pay as you go budgeting, that kind of thing. there's a reason ...

Diversity of america. and both of them -- and for him it's like a symbol -- he symbolizes the loss of control of predictability, of certainty, of clarity. that a lot of people need for their psychic well being. and so i worry about it. look, he's well protected by the secret service, they're terrific. and a president, i can tell you, i've never pet a president. and look, george w. bush had some threats against him. people who strongly disagree with his policy. eric cantor got a threat here. the governor of new jersey has been threatened by the republican governor of new jersey. but by and larg...

>> we'd probably delay them. but that -- if they're persistent enough, they could at some point succeed. is that a fair judgment from your position? >> that's a fair judgment. >> so that the only absolutely dispositive way to end any potential would be to physically occupy their country and to just disestablish their nuclear facilities. is that a fair, logical conclusion? >> absent some other unknown calculus that would go on, that's a fair conclusion. >> and look, nobody is talking about invading iran to deal with all of this. and that's the fundamental problem with a military option. unless ...

You're in "the situation room" happening now. it was one of the worst terrorist attacks on u.s. soil. now on this 15th anniversary of the oklahoma city bombing, what's the biggest threat americans are facing? i'm going one-on-one with homeland security secretary janet napolitano. and as pope benedict marks the sixth anniversary of becoming pope, does he have what it takes to moving the catholic church beyond a growing sex scandal? i'm suzanne malveaux, and you're in "the situation room." in oklahoma city, today, 168 seconds of silence. one for every victim of the devastating bombing over...

Now the white house and the pentagon says that's not what's going on. but indeed, there is stepped up military planning just in case it's needed. >> iran's military on parade this weekend. president ahmadinejad saying iran is now so powerful no country would dare attack it. iran's ultimate threat, its nuclear weapons development program. but the white house monday pointing out the regimes already had trouble making weapons grade fuel. >> the rhetoric of iran and their nuclear program does not always meet the reality of what they're capable of. >> but while diplomacy is the top option, the pent...