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Look, it's a tragedy, and i get that. and we're in a hugh-partisan sort of time -- hyper-partisan time in the country, but that doesn't mean we need to marry these two events. chris: okay. you were at the table with trump and kim at the summit. we can see you there in the foreground on the left in vietnam. and the north koreans have now said after those talks fell apart they may end all talks between the u.s. and north korea, and they may resume nuclear and missile testing. if they do so, how will the president respond? >> i think the resumption of the missile testing would be seen as sort of ...

Our countries. >> i would. the reason is this. the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them, which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration is ridiculous. >> yet, it was under the bush administration that the six party talks were launched and achieved the notable success. north korea demolition in 2008 of a water cooling tower used in the nuclear programs. with the obama administration ruling out direct u.s. orangutans until north korea honor -- u.s. ruling out the north korean talks until they honor their agreement. >> they did this in tight t...