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The sense you get is that they have made some significant strides. is that your assessment as well, sir? >> oh, yeah. absolutely. they were using soviet style old technology and these things were misfiring about 50% of the time. and in a very short period of time, their rocket technology improved dramatically. i think they truly brought in some soviet old former soviet scientists. they probably had some technological assistance possibly from china as well. i'm just speculating on that. but their program advanced dramatically under kim jong un. and to remind our viewers, what he is trying to do...

Atlantic" saying how our relationship is moving of north korea. "i would say there is a three inch entrance we use the military option. if the north korea conducts an additional test, i would say 70%." do you think that is where we are? >> i don't know about the percentages but i do know this. clearly, we are heading toward a showdown here. time is on the side of the north koreans. the reason for that is, they are trying to nuclearize icbms, the director of the cia says it is months, not years away from that capability. we are trying to take a major diplomatic effort and imposed economic sanct...

Atlantic" saying how our relationship is moving of north korea. "i would say there is a three inch entrance we use the military option. if the north korea conducts an additional test, i would say 70%." do you think that is where we are? >> i don't know about the percentages but i do know this. clearly, we are heading toward a showdown here. time is on the side of the north koreans. the reason for that is, they are trying to nuclearize icbms, the director of the cia says it is months, not years away from that capability. we are trying to take a major diplomatic effort and imposed economic sanct...

President's rhetoric is totally different than previous three presidents in dealing with this. let's really take a close look at what i think is happening. yes, the president's rhetoric is way out there. but, what he is trying to do -- and i think he instinctively gets, this martha, big power competition is fundamentally a test of wills. roosevelt understood it kennedy did. reagan did and now president trump is dealing with this he knows that kim jong un when obama was president rationalized the current strategy he has which is to nuclearize icbms under the assumption that president obama woul...

Have to have.in you have to have number one, real military capability.ta your adversaries have to understand that that capability is there. and we have that.d number two, your adversary has to understand that you intend to use it. he has to believe that. that there is political will and commitment to use that force if necessary.y. the soviet union understood that clearly. they understood it very dramatically when president reagan was president.n what we have had recently is appeasement, accommodation. and that is what has generated -- i think it is ais rational decision on kim's part nucleariz...