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Playing a xylophone. he's not comfortable pronouncing his name. he's not comfortable talking about the guy. now he's going to somehow contain him. is the bar set now if he can contain north korea the way barack obama contained iran, that somehow that would be a success? i mean, you got to measure these things against each other. >> he's setting the bar much higher with north korea. he's saying he wants them to give up their nukes. that's never happened before. no country ha already got nukes has given it up. libya gave up a nuke program. south africa gave up a nuke program. they hadn't reached...

Until there's a united front it's hard to imagine meaningful talks bringing progress. >> melissa: the second piece of the puzzle has to do with fair and free trade between china and the u.s. the whole idea of getting things back on a level playing field. i never knew how much to take that seriously or was that a pressure point with north korea and the nuke program? where do you think is the balance there? >> i think the president is sincere in his effort to try to rebalance the trade. it's an interesting time because there's newly consolidated power in china and this is the first meeting face ...

U.s./korea policy for the council on foreign relations. yes, thank you. jeffrey, let me start with you. you wrote this article nearly a year ago now. ominously warning, quote, north korea's nuke program is way more sophisticated than you think. this week's news that north korea has militarized the nuclear warhead and holds a bigger status than first thought, i imagine that did not surprise you one iota. the question is, why didn't the government seem to know what you were spotlighting in december 2016? >> well, all the evidence was there. the north koreans would repeatedly say this was their g...

U.s. citizens. what are the options for the u.s. military in a situation like this one? joining me now, retired general barry mccaffrey. good to see you. we can start with the premise that all of know that any military option is not a good one. having said that. when you heard the president say fire and fury, did you consider it a threat of military action and when a president says words like that, what are our armed forces doing, if anything, to position themselves in the case they get called on? >> well, obviously very unhelpful comment by the president, you notice that tillerson and governo...

Korea's most advanced missile it is are actually variance of chinese ones. we've got to ask president xi jinping some very pointed questions about how come north korea has chinese looking missiles in its inventory. >> do you expect that they are helping? >> they are definitely helping. we have so much evidence over the course of decades. not just the ballistic missile program. recently china has been supplying north korea with missile material and equipment for his nuke program. this is assistance across the board. indeed we have to question whether china is weaponizing north korea to harm the...