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>> it was another one of those numb, painful things and i just looked at my sister-in-law and said something like, take care of my son. and i walked out. it was like a two minute visit. it should have been two hours. r my education, and i got a bachelors in psychology. that was intriguing because so many of the people inside seemed to be psych patients. so that had a little concrete immediate use. >> we were on the wynne unit for about ten years together. then he graduated from sam houston through the college program and he went down to the

You? >> and he wouldn't look me in the eye, but he looked at the floor and told me yeah, it's the last one. >> i could tell it was painful for my dad. i don't remember feeling the same pain. >> it was another one of those numb, painful things and i just looked at my sister-in-law and said something like, take care of my son. and i walked out. it was like a two minute visit. it should have been two hours. >> on advice of one of the prisoner counselors, i tried to further my education, and i got a bachelors in psychology. that was intriguing because so many of the people inside seemed to be psyc...

>> and he wouldn't look me in the eye, but he looked at the floor and told me yeah, it's the last one. >> i could tell it was painful for my dad. i don't remember feeling the same pain. >> it was another one of those numb, painful things. and i just looked at my sister-in-law and said something like, take care of my son. and i walked out. it was like a two-minute visit, should have been two hours. >> on advice of one of the prison counsellors i tried to further my education. and i got a bachelor's in psychology. and that was intriguing, because so many of the people inside seemed to be psych p...

Father. but i do remember the visit. >> and i thought about it. i kind of weighed the pros and cons and i wrote him back, and i said well, i'll grant your wish, but you've got to come here and look me in the eye and tell me that. >> i remember just like every other time, we waited in the waiting room. i remember being much more nervous. >> we had our greetings and i asked him if this was our last visit. >> the only thing i remember him saying to me is -- he said will this be the last time that i see you? >> and he wouldn't look me in the eye, but he looked at the floor and told me yeah, it's t...

Personally. >> the tea party. >> well, first if these numb -- >> that's a good point. >> if he's been around for a decade. >> that's a good point. they're not polls on you, tim. you are part of the tea party movement? is that not true. >> we're a free market operation. we've been around for a decade. >> then you ought to love president obama. >> we do. we do. we love what he's doing for our movement, absolutely. >> so, i mean, my question is, you are considered part of the tea party movement, more broadly, and you've lost the speak of the house. it seems like you're losing the country. where i...