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But this is something more. but i think you may be on to something because this is internet driven and it looks to me like the internet is just the place where people want some kind of numb -- they want to numb themselves to some degree. >> exactly right. it's internet driven, it's natural. it's an incredible success in dozens of countries. why? because globally, folks are losing their center. they want not to be reminded of what they think and feel, but more conveyed away from it. i had a kids' book i wrote. i sent it out to a few publishers and they say it seems like it has a message. i said...

Electricity. just 90 volts can be lethal. turning it all off is a pain staking two-hour ordeal. >> i'm hanging out of the seat with a seat belt still on, trying to brace myself against different parts of the plane. >> the pressure from my body was starting to cut off circulation to the other parts of my body. bryan couldn't feel his legs. i couldn't feel my legs. >> rescuers draped two slings around the fuselage to create a makeshift harness, supporting the weight of the plane. now more than 50 rescuers worked ever so cautiously around the web of wires which, even without power, could become d...

>> it's important, we certainly are committed to it part of that is a conversation with president obama, that "the today show's" savannah guthrie conducted. i want to play a portion of that about where the political debate is now. >> mitt romney said that president obama has chosen his side in this fight. that you sided with the unions. and another time last spring, he said he can't talk of reform while indulging in groups that block it. >> well, you know, i think governor romney and a numb of folks try to politicize the issue and do a lot of teacher-bashing. when i meet teachers all across th...

Are committed to it part of that is a conversation with president obama, that "the today show's" savannah guthrie conducted. i want to play a portion of that about where the political debate is now. >> mitt romney said that president obama has chosen his side in this fight. that you sided with the unions. and another time last spring, he said he can't talk of reform while indulging in groups that block it. >> well, you know, i think governor romney and a numb of folks try to politicize the issue and do a lot of teacher-bashing. when i meet teachers all across the country, they're so devoted, s...

Lower rates. make it a better tax climate for everyone, for everyone and make sure that we get people to work. a regulatory climate where small businesses want to thrive and grow. it's been the opposite as the president, i would say he tried, but his policies failed. >> let me end on one issue that's important to us as nbc news, that's the issue of education, a big summit we're beginning, "education nation" today. >> thank you for doing that. >> it's important, we certainly are committed to it part of that is a conversation with president obama, that "the today show's" savannah guthrie conduct...