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You have to put some conventi conventional force. i'm not talking 20, 30, 40,000. i'm in the 1,000 to 2,000 range to get done initially what we have to do. >> kurt anderson, so let's say you nut 2,000. let's say you get done initially what you have to do as the joan say. how many do you have to leave there for how long? how many decades in order to maintain whatever it is you've achieved? >> well, that's the problem we never faced. our american empire of this on going need for occupation. and, of course, in the present day in that region, we don't have the luxury even of saying we'll stay here...

I'm in the 1,000 to 2,000 range to get done initially what we have to do. >> kurt anderson, so let's say you nut 2,000. let's say you get done initially what you have to do as the joan say. how many do you have to leave there for how long? how many decades in order to maintain whatever it is you've achieved? >> well, that's the problem we never faced. our american empire of this on going need for occupation. and, of course, in the present day in that region, we don't have the luxury even of saying we'll stay here and our people won't -- so that's the problem. as far as i can see and can tell, ...