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Spoke with Sergey Kislyak last july. It was during these conversations, im told by j. D. Gordon, they talked about improving relations between the u. S. And russia. It was dur thag time, erin, that j. D. Gordon says he went to the convention, Advocating On Behalf of the campaign for language in the gop platform that advocated against the arming of the ukrainians in their fights against the prorussian rebels. That is something the Trump Campaign denied they were doing at the time. It denied it was advocating for that language in the gop platform. Flash forward to december and according to a Sen...

Resulted in election pressure or gives blackmail possibilities. >> this is the line, right? the idea that michael cohen did a bunch of business, the technical legal term, shady business in other parts of the world doesn't amount to much, i don't see, for the president. if, however, he did things that created relationships or debt that affected the 2016 campaign, through michael cohen, we are talking potential evidence of collusion, the biggest thing of all. >> it could be. certainly, if the southern district of new york prosecutors and agents there found evidence of that, there's nut thag woul...

Staffers. the staffers could be significant. the attorney general came out and said they did not talk about the election. he says that's completely and utterly false. here is what he said he did talk about with the russian ambassador, here he is. >> we talked about terrorism, as i recall. the subject of ukraine came up. i had the ukrainian ambassador in my office the day before to listen to him. nothing -- russia has done nut thag is wrong in any area and everybody else was wrong with regards to ukraine. it got to be a testy conversation at that point. he said something about inviting me to ha...

Clinton and hillary clinton. >> it was in the wake of the statement. >> if he was auditioning for another reality tv show, this is a time of choosing for republicans, i believe that. most republicans have to sit back and say what does the republican party want to be in the future. we have to look beyond the election. i get the point about judges, i'm sympathetic. you have to think about ha is best for the party and the country. this man should not be president of the united states. there's nothing about what he said that is redeeming. there is nut thag is redeeming or redeemable. >> if you wer...

Who feels threatened. should he be? >> kate, i think that's happening here is the second debate marks the end of the first stage of the campaign. what we are shifting into now is what is, quote, unquote, normal in a presidential primary season. i mean, this is the stage when george h.w. bush went after reagan for voodoo economics and jfk went after his family's ambassador for england and believing the nazis are going to win. >> what does that mean for trump and fiorina? there is nut thag is typical or usual about how the campaigns have been run so far. >> right. what it means is it's settling ...