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Ought to be worried about it. if you look in the races, ben is exactly right. they were terrible candidates. bevins going up against the republican leader in the senate was never going to work. the man could never put together any real money. the other candidates were different shades of crazy around the country, particularly georgia. so no, i think that the tea party is doing just fine. and you can see it on capitol hill every single day with cuts to nutrition programs and all the other things that they're trying to do to appease the tea party wing. >> ben, you look at -- >> i give you well-p...

What the american people want and need that it is literally hard to believe. it is hard to believe. the richest people in this country are doing phenomenally well. the ryan budget substantially lowers taxes for millionaires and billionaires. working families and low income people are struggling. the ryan budget makes savage cuts in nutrition programs, in education, and in health care. it does exactly the opposite of what the merp people need and what the american people want, and as you indicated, this is a continuation of the war against the middle class and working families that the republic...

Stamp program. so to me what you're looking at is an ugly kind of class warfare where the people on top want more and more and more. and they're pushing down in an incredibly terrible way the most vulnerable people in our country. >> let's look who is on food stamps. a new report from the department of agriculture shows 45% of food stamp recipients are children. 9% are elderly. 10% are disabled adults. almost half of the food stamps recipients are children. how republicans choose to make cuts, knowing this, how do you live with yourself? >> well, that's a good question. it's a basic moral issu...

African-american family. these kind of studies have be done and are very helpful at times. it looks like he's not using the study to be helpful but using the conversations that we understands loosely, if at all about culture to justify cuts in food stamps, cuts in nutrition programs for school that have little or nothing relationship really to me to whether somebody gets up and catches the bus at 7:00 in the morning or has the urge to work or whatever it is that is there. i don't see actually the connection between his policies and what he sees as his prescriptions. your thoughts? >> well, if ...

Raise or elect more democrats that will do it. >> this is an argument he's been making for awhile. what's it going to take for republicans to raise the minimum wage? >> well, i was at that dnc conference and he was on fire and everyone else was and they are going to take this message out to an election. certainly, americans deserve a raise. no worker should have to live in poverty and some corporations give them lessons on how to access food stamps and other government programs, saying we know you can't live on what we're faing you. meanwhile, the republican party works to cut the food stamps ...