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And our senior citizens who are going to have their nutrition programs cut in ohio. 3/4 of a million dollars out with out. what are they going to do? give them fewer green beans? >> a lot of the programs slated for cuts are extremely popular with the public. their polling is very strong for the democrats. congressman ellison, what you hearing from your constituents in minnesota? >> well, what i'm hearing is we still have a number of people unemployed. and the training and the assistance that they get to get back into the workforce is going to be dramatically cut, and thousands of people will s...

Unemployment benefits for those people who are having a hard time finding a job. so, i think there was a lot in here for middle and low-income families, things that we weren't necessarily guaranteed we were going to get a week ago, so i'm not sure i agree totally with senator harkin on that. >> some of the issues not addressed -- no entitlement reform, no reform of the tax code, obviously, a punting on the sequester. was this also a big missed opportunity? >> well, you know, i'm one who doesn't believe that you can do entitlement reform, changes to medicare, medicaid, social security, things t...

Poor. without the durability and the inability to get out of it, you don't actually quite know what it's like. >> no. i mean, i think that elected leaders always bring a lot of both their personality and their life experiences as they should to the work that we do and to draw attention to the issues about which we're passionate. on the one hand, i think it's really great. i talk about going to food pantries, not because i was trying to draw attention to it, but because i had to live by going to a food pantry to support myself and my son. i think that that is really important. not to lose the p...

States function not to help people like curtis and consee ta cats, two people mentioned in the story get back to where they were to a point of productive stability, but simply to keep them from starving or more often, to merely reduce the chances that they will starve. which to me is shocking, nora. >> you know, food stamps are the first line of defense against hunger in america and very few people realize that. the charitable sector like feeding america is really here to be supplemental support to the federal nutrition programs. i think one thing that is rarely discussed is that of all the fe...

"the new york times" national editor sam sifton, the author of "thanksgiving: how to cook it well." i want to go to you first on this, when with you talk about the problem of hunger in america it is hugely underdiscussed issue and you look at the numbers both for households and children alone. i know share our strength is focused on child hunger in america. it's -- the rates have remained virtually unchanged in the last five years. what needs to be done to address this problem? >> well, think one of the most important things to realize about hunger which we tend to think of as a thanksgiving w...