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Is that a crime? is someone goes on a date and says they're jewish and not jewish, is that a crime? these are the examples he used in the opinion. you can see why you don't want to make a federal case out of it. and i think the opinion was right. >> some people can be prosecuted if they tried to get veterans benefits based on a fraudulent record or if they try to defraud people in some way. >> if you make a false statement to the government. if the fbi interviews you, even if not under oath, that's a federal crime. if you lie during a grand jury testimony, that's under oath. but private citize...

Jewish, is that a crime? you can see why you don't want to make a federal case out of it. and i think the opinion was right. >> some people can be prosecuted if they tried to get veterans benefits based on a fraudulent record or if they try to defraud people. >> if you make a false statement to the government. if the fbi interviews you, even if not under oath, that's a federal crime. if you lie during a grand jury testimony, that's under oath. but if i applied for a job at cnn and said i was a scholar, which i'm not, and they found out, they could fire me for it. but prosecuting someone crimin...

You can see why you don't want to make a federal case out of it. and i think the opinion was right. >> some people can be prosecuted if they tried to get veterans benefits based on a fraudulent record or if they try to defraud people. >> if you make a false statement to the government. if the fbi interviews you, even if not under oath, that's a federal crime. if you lie during a grand jury testimony, that's under oath. but if i applied for a job at cnn and said i was a scholar, which i'm not, and they found out, they could fire me for it. but prosecuting someone criminally for a non under oath...

They could fire me for it. people get fired for lying on their resumes all the time. but prosecuting someone criminally for a non under oath statement between individuals, that opens the door -- >> if you lied about your military service on a resume, you could be fired? >> people get fired all the time. >> but you wouldn't necessarily be able to be prosecuted? >> well, no, you can't. navy s.e.a.l. is a little different. the navy s.e.a.l. claim, which this pastor did, that wouldn't be covered under the stolen valor act. because it only applies to honors, the silver star or congressional medal o...