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Think depends how the president comes out. the first today in his retort, a way to hold the base in place. >> carol, you've done amgt lot reporting. back to the trump tower meeting to unpack things. do you get the sense steve bannon e knows something here? >> he knows a lot. he was ob usiously was there. >>io obviously there in the aftermath as this has come up. he's score settling. everyone knows how much he hates jared kushner. >> this is focused on that? right? >> in ways obsessed with him and continues to go after him and ivanka and parts of the book he talk, jared's like, what happened to...