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Obamacare. saying more scandals involving health care and obamacare. i think that's the extent of the reasoning. >> you know, goldie, some on the right are actually trying to use the va problem to go after obamacare or the affordable care act. listen to some of this rhetoric. >> sarah palin and a couple other people on the right said there will be death panels. there will be people deciding who gets what treatment and when and that's going to put long waiting lines on certain types of treatment. the va is proving that right now. >> we've already seen what happens with the va, with all the laye...

>> there's rampant income me tense here and inability to run the medical treatment of veterans affairs system. we have to find a way to convince people that this obamacare can't work and that everybody is headed for a similar potential as these deaths in the v.a. here is a microcosm of what obamacare is going to be when fully implemented. >> isn't that, kimberly, today, when you finally heard the president speak he wasn't going after the system -- the actual v.a. system and i why it could be failing. he started to take about shinseki and what a good man he was and feigned outrage, but didn't g...

Here's rush limbaugh. bob's favorite. >> there's rampant income me tense here and inability to run the medical treatment of veterans affairs system. we have to find a way to convince people that this obamacare can't work and that everybody is headed for a similar potential as these deaths in the v.a. here is a microcosm of what obamacare is going to be when fully implemented. >> isn't that, kimberly, today, when you finally heard the president speak he wasn't going after the system -- the actual v.a. system and i why it could be failing. he started to take about shinseki and what a good man he...

Uninsured in the country, 17 million people. so -- medicaid is very much a bipartisan policy, it's an option for the states that allows an opt-in. my hope is that that standing and that remains to be seen whether the overall mandate will be. >> eric: if the mandate is struck down, the headline will be that the president lost. >> obamacare is the individual mandate. that's what obamacare is. if the individual mandate is struck down, obamacare can't work. and democrats inside the white house know this. that's why they are furiously trying to figure out what to do under that scenario. the individ...