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It is a strategic tactic. we all pretty much know where the president is when it comes to russia. but right now they're trying to hold tight and keep it so they don't cause themselves any more pain. it's about credibility. it's about where sean stands. sean is siding with the team in not giving the information that we are looking for in russia. >> grab some water. sorry i caught you -- >> choked up. >> -- on this issue. it is a tough job. it is a tough job. we appreciate you asking all those tough questions and coming on. thanks to all of you this morning. republicans, they have blasted democr...

>> message matters obviously. you want to find the right messenger. that's probably going to take a turn toward policy for the democrats. makes this health care situation that much more important. what do you make of the state of play on this health care bill right now? yes, it's been too secretive. even the republicans are clamoring about that. but at the end of the day, if they pass something, that will be delivering on that republican plo promise to undo the aca. what's the democrat play? >> i think delivering on that promise, chris, is what's motivating mitch mcconnell. he does not want to...

You're hearing that from cruz. mike lee went even further and he's one of the guys tasked with drafting it and he says, "i don't know what's in it, i share your frustration." >> i'm in this working group as well. the purpose of the working group isn't to actually write the bill. it is to really discuss all the issues. it is very complex. in two meetings i saw the wide spectrum of opinions within the republican conference trying to fix this mess of obamacare. my suggestion was let's break this into two parts. let's pass something to stabilize the insurance markets that are literally collapsing ...

That's a really tall order because obamacare has really messed it up. >> you think it is worse now than it was before obamacare? >> absolutely, it is worse. >> even though the rates have increased and premiums are less? >> no. chris, premiums have doubled under obamacare. >> but the rate of increase -- the rate of increase during this period of aca is less than it was before it and you have so many millions more covered in ways that they weren't covered. >> chris, on the individual market -- that's primarily what obamacare is. on the individual market, premiums have doubled. i don't think that...

Republicans would have, if ossoff had won that race in georgia. nonetheless, there are big, big issues dividing moderate republicans from conservative republicans, the same divisions we saw in the house, only he has less running room because they have fewer republicans in the senate. i think mcconnell is trying to force the issue. he doesn't want republicans to go whom over the holiday break and hear from their constituents. he doesn't want to unfurl this bill until they have the details of it because he knows it is going to be highly controversial and it is a very -- it is a very narrow pass ...