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Step and they are working together. they are communicating, which is what you want them to do, be collaborative and be on the same page so there aren't missteps early on. seems like they are in unison, which i think is a very good sign and you want to have them in a cord moving forward. >> you also have, eric, the fact that when president-elect donald trump said we'll do something on the same day. he said when hhs nominee tom price is confirmed, we will have. i think what they are saying is that in the obamacare bill that nobody read, there's all these things that says the secretary shall. the...

Immigration groups than getting control of our border. >> it sort of speaks to a larger issue that's being criticized about. you know, across the board does he have a plan. does he take action. whether it's iraq or health care or the irs. you know the list goes on, mark. and it's really across the board on the sunday programs, all over the networks, everybody is asking the same question. does he care? is he neglecting his duty? >> his presidency is engulfed in crises in three areas. in abroad, at home and at the border. i don't know where else you can have a crisis. the va scandal. you have th...

Matter what, but some of them are in states where people have it and like it? >> that's a good point, joy. it is the latter. it is a fundamental contradiction, i think, that republicans face. you can't want to get rid of obamacare without getting rid of the medicaid money that came to these states, and the, in kentucky's case, 413,000 people and other states however many hundreds of thousands, or tens of thousands of people are benefiting from the law. you just can't make those two work out together. and mcconnell's mistake here really dramatized that republicans have a problem here. democrats...

I think it hurts him with everybody, even the tea party. he's such a washington politician. he thinks he can get away with this kind of evasiveness, and he's getting caught right and left. >> the polls are really close. michael, so you have this issue where you said democrats have their own obamacare problems. one of them is the inability to sort of answer the straightforward question, if you are in the senate, would you have voted for it. grimes actually had a response to mcconnell in which she said mcconnell has voted to destroy kynect and he said he will do it again. is the answer to the de...

Senate. of course the obamacare problems there. they think with this candidate might make a difference. >> i'm curious what you think is the best way for them to go after merkley. >> what's the best play? i think especially in light of the fact that obamacare -- all the health care problems that they've had. i think i would run -- if i was a republican i would go straight there especially with this candidate. what about you? >> i think that's right. i think there is a libertarian strain out there. it is a place -- i think it's going to be awfully hard for republicans to beat merkley, but you c...