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Another example of trump, while temperamentally out there, you look at a lot of the selections and you look at where he is moving on policy. actually, there seems to be a bit of a moderating stance compared to what he did during the campaign and take that as jeffrey elud to, from what all of his people are saying, you know, no muslim ban, no wall, at least not in the way that it's perceived, no repeal without a replacement. >> when we discussed this on the show the other day i don't know if i would call that moderation or purely clear-eyed political self-interest. the risk for donald trump -- ...

In months ahead but president elect strongly supported efforts popularly advancing the congress in health savings accounts allowing people to purchase insurance plans, the architect of obamacare replacement will come together as it should in the weeks and months ahead but the american people voted for change in november, and the president elect and i are working with the leaders of the house and senate are determined to make our promise to the american people and that all begins with repealing an replacing the failed policy of obamacare. [ inaudible question ] >> you talk about the argument th...

This is a numbers game and they don't have the numbers. john mccain in all likelihood killed healthcare reform, obamacare replacement again. this is the second time he's done it. i don't think anybody should be too surprised. we're not even getting a cbo score on this bill and john mccain was saying we need to do regular order, meaning deliberations and hearings. there have been no hearings on this bill. so don't be that surprised that john mccain is a no. he was a no last time. >> well, you're reading my mind, kevin. that was my question to you. should people be surprised? i mean, didn't john...

That's why this is so explosive. that's why it seems left to members of congress to give this reassurance, which i think for the moment i don't think they can do, because it doesn't seem to be what the language is headed towards right now. and by the way, leaving it up to states to figure out? that is something that will be a long time coming. >> i know, but there are republicans that do make the case that premiums for everyone else would go down. >> of course. >> and there is reason they could and would. it's just that it's not being sold that way. >> yeah. >> and i think voters and members a...

Popular than the one that is currently up, obamacare, and obamacare, turns out, is probably twice as popular as the president of the united states and three times more popular than republicans in congress. >> you know, lynn sweet, final observation. the president cutting off the interview with john dickerson when he kept asking him to explain what he meant when he called president obama bad and sick over wiretapping? >> i saw the visual. it's always jarring, but john did a very good and complete interview. what i liked about it is that it had many follow-ups, including pressing president trump...