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Through association health plans. this is particularly those people who buy their own coverage. these plans would work like a large employer's health plan, but would be free of some obamacare rules, for example, requiring coverage for a set package of benefits. it abolishes a rule preventing the sale of short-term medical insurance. this order would be the most concrete step the white house has taken since the failure of the obamacare repeal. but remember, the president cannot overturn a law. obamacare is still the law of the land. but ask affect how federal agencies act, in this case how they...

Usual will a friend of republicans secretary of defense this the is not legal payment. on appeal at the moment. if little is going to be worked upon that begins to unset those payments. we can finally repeal and replace obamacare. if that's not going to happen, why should the american taxpayers continue to bail out insurance industry? pete: sure. marc, the other side, members of congress, there is a sense that they get a second set of rules than we do. easy way to make sure they play by the same obamacare rules. >> that's exactly right, pete. so what happened later then, when obamacare passed,...

>> is 8 million okay? 5 million okay? >> what i'm saying is these estimates are bogus. they are just -- cbo -- >> you will admit some people will lose their -- a large percent a percentage, whether the num sber exactly right. >> a guy who died because of obamacare. there are people throughout who really have a problem with it. >> he died from getting health insurance? >> he died because obamacare rules and regulations that he was not to be treated for something that had like a two-night stay mandatory. i'm telling you, this is what his family said. they were told this by the doctor. quote/unqu...

Moving forward, what happens next. we can all sit here and dwell on what went wrong. what they should have and could have done. obviously it is what it is. it's already done. what can we do in the future what's it going to look like in the future. >> repeal and replace. ainsley: will we get brand new bill. >> in 96 it took three times to get that president clinton finally signed it which we took the medicaid out. perhaps it will come back no time soon. brian: not now. >> humpty dump at this -- brian: how do you feel about takes vote out. >> repeal vote. brian: takes it out and says two years w...

Vote yes two years ago and no now. >> that's my point. that would be a partial repeal. only repeal of the spending. it's not a repeal of the obamacare rules. here's the problem. if you actually did repeal obamacare in its entirety, to a future date with nothing to replace it, i think that's bad government. you should replace it. should be known for our ideas and improve the lives of people. that's why they are -- steve: you need some democrats. brian: ari, the thing is, what you are saying is if i'm an insurance ceo or pharmaceutical industry, all i know is i don't know what the future is. you...