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Spoke to today, what mike and ashley have alluded to, the president is seemingly trying to soften the ground or perhaps give us a window into something he's been cautioned might be a possibility that on the obstruction front, on the obstruction channel, if you will, there could be conduct that is clearly in the vain of trying to obstruct the investigation to himself and his campaign. >> we're now getting more than a glimpse of what this defense strategy's going to be, particularly with regard to obstructi obstruction allegations is i'm not a obstructionist, i'm a fighter. i'm a fighter, that's...

>> tom nichols wrote for "usa today" that it actually would have been surprising given all of the strange behavior exhibited by the president during his campaign on this show actually in december of 2015, moving forward, and through the first couple of years of his presidency he actually said that it would have been strange had the fbi not made an inquiry into whether there was any connection between russia and donald trump that might impact america's national security. can you tell me what sort of division there was inside the bureau on whether this should be launched or not? >> well, the bur...

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Discussed but i think it was april/may what he was telling you the last time it had been at all discussed. but harry littman, possible pardon? what are you thinking? >> well, we are in a different place, as shimon says, but it's no place trump should feel comfortable in. the complication in the last 24 hours with manafort's plea agreement having imploded almost celts the table with a circumstantial case of obstructi obstruction. any pardon now would look like a reward to manafort for an extraordinary kind of double cross of the prosecutor here, ba'ath promi both promising to be truthful and no...

On a letter from the president's outside counl. i direct you to them to answer it. >> you said he did not dictate. but you said he did. what is it? >> i am not going to respond to a letter from the president's ounce counsel. i refer you to them for comment. >> joining me natasha bertrand and jim sugerman who argued the letter from trump's lawyers amount to admission of obstructi obstruction. significance of this lie now being exposed. what do you think it is? >> i mean, it's always been fairly obvious that trump played a direct role in crafting this statement. now we have it in black and white...