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Understands that the republicans are playing a game. again, i have no problem with this vote. i think it should move forward with the news we've learned in the last several weeks and the actions by the administration today. all bets are off. let's move forward. let's take the republicans up on this game because the numbers are moving in the opposite direction. and again, that's why i think the president is starting to panic. >> will this refusal or blocking rather of ambassador sondland testifying, will that end up in a potential article of impeachment for obstruction of justice? >> you know, ...

Say, if they're going to say no to subpoenas we're just going to use that as data towards an obstruction charge essentially an obstruction article of impeachment. democrats are tired of playing footsie with folks who do not want to comply with congressional subpoenas and now they're just saying your lack of compliance is evidence that you are obstructing. it changes the game slightly and puts, you could argue, more pressure on the white house to make a decision. do you not comply and risk further obstruction, or do you comply and let folks testify who might provide damning evidence. >> garrett...

Pelosi here is focused a, on speed. they've reached a galloping pace and they've sensed i think accurately they they need to harness it and keep it going for that reason. and she can also disseminate it across different communities. there's going to be depositions of the state department folks, of giuliani's brigade in the ukraine, people who overheard the call. and she's quite focused my understanding of there being at least two articles, one based on ukraine and a general kind of obstruction article and the hows and where really are, and she's got quite a lot of latitude. you just have to ga...

In watergate we had to wait until the white house tapes corroborated what john dean said what went on in the oval office. but here you have the president himself essentially confessing to obstruction of justice. and that, so the fact they're looking at this is simply what responsible prosecutors would do. >> john, never before in the history of the presidency have we had a realtime look into the what the president's thinking is. >> that's exactly right. the tweets are a very unique source. i happen to take a look after the announcement about looking at the tweets came out at the bill of impeac...

Was there criminal intent? how do you determine if there was criminal intent? the voice and words of the would-be defendant. what's bizarre in watergate we had to wait until the white house tapes corroborated what john dean said went on in the oval office. here, you have the president himself essentially confessing to obstruction of justice. the fact that they're looking at this is simply what responsible prosecutors would do. >> john, never before in the history of the presidency have we had a real-time look into what the president's thinking is. >> that's exactly right. the tweets are a very...