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Hicks has already turned over some documents related to her time on the trump campaign. she faces another big test as she and donaldson have been summoned to testify before the judiciary committee in person. nadler was asked about that earlier today. >> do you expect annie donaldson and hope hicks to appear for these hearings? >> that was that. for now the latest white house move effectively blocks the democrats' access to some of the key witnesses related to the obstruction aspect of the mueller investigation. you may recall the white house also stopped don mcgahn from cooperating with a subp...

>> now we've got trump's foik take over the job. we know in he wrote in a memo to justice officials that mueller's inquiry was fatally misconceived, referring specifically the obstruction aspect of it. this is clear that he also agrees with the president, right? pretty -- is the president clearly trying to stack the justice department with people who will go there and just fix this probe for him? >> well, you know the president would say he will never try to stack the jarustice department t it sounds like loyalty. if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck....

Written answers will not be impactful. they will have a lot of legal ease and ways in which if you were to draw a flowchart how to avoid more legal scrutiny. they are not going to be full of comprehensive answers, and for that reason if you are mueller's team looking at any written answers that are forthcoming is figuring out where do you see gaps and you will target on those areas. the obstruction aspect will be a minor part of a written answer but a lengthy part of a verbal discussion because that's when the intent can be tested. up to this point it's on the paper and will be highly vetted a...

Speaker's office for reaction and he has yet to respond publicly. so the house is in recess. radio silence. >> so we're hearing here and looking at the reasons. nothing tangible. kind of abstract saying, he made the series of unfounded, outrageous allegations, wild outbursts on the internet and tv. when it comes to the reason here, it's clear this is the easiest game of connect the dots when it comes to brennan and everybody else who has spoken out who could be on this list as well. >> the "wall street journal" interview, i just read in the break, i thought my goodness, this is time after time...

Shortly thereafter he dropped from sight. natasha, this speaks to the fact that we're sort of getting things six months later generally about what mueller has been up to. but the idea that he is not looking into collusion anymore seems belied by the information we do learn. >> right. it seems like every week we're learning a new piece of this investigation that does have to do with collusion. of course, the collusion aspect of this investigation, and that's not even a good word for it, the conspiracy aspect of this investigation is of course much more complex than the obstruction aspect of thi...