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of people that included roger stone and steve bannon urging trump to declare victory regardless of the results, the actual legal results, of the 2020 election. now the january 6th select committee cites a memo that fitton wrote for trump in the run-up to election day, i think the summer before the election, as evidence that in the words of committee member zoe love gren friend the big lie was untensional, promeditated and a plan concocted in advance. here's a snippet from the january 6th select committee's final hearing. >> a few days before the election, mr. trump also consulted wit...

Telling them they are going to charge him, and he is discussing the possibility of cooperating. that would be the most exciting you could say for why he's there now. >> the most exciting. harry, or the most plausible. tell me what would come before and after a fitton appearance because as you rightly point out we simply have little dots of a contellation, we don't have the whole picture. what could he be part of and maybe start with january 6th and then take me over to mar-a-lago? >> fine. first, i think mar-a-lago is the most important because he's the guy who trump is taking the calls for wh...

Because i think that could backfire. >> joining me now is former watergate assistant prosecutor, john sail. john, i appreciate your time. you heard from former cia director leon panetta. do you agree with that, that we're coming close? >> with all respect to secretary panetta, none of us know what mr. mueller is doing, but logically, sure, they're coming close. i've never had a client, and you had a guest on in the prior segment, a former prosecutor. he laid out a good process for obstruction, that there is mounting evidence, but he never had a case where the office of legal counsel has said, ...

Starts to talk about firing rosenstein, this becomes a defining moment, not only for the trump administration but for john kelly. if kelly doesn't step in and stop that, or if he goes along with that, i think it will destroy his reputation. he will go down in history as a chief of staff who betrayed his country and the rule of law. those are the stakes we're talking about right now. >> i want to go to numbers with regard to how americans have interpreted these reports and they're from a monmouth university poll. 44% of americans say if the reports of the president trying to fire mueller are tr...

>> i don't know that's bob muller's job to sort that out. >> the special counsel will try to work to understand whether the obstruction intent was tlft that's the first obvious reason we believe the special counsel, bob muller is investigating whether anyone potentially including the president might have try to obstruct justice in the russia investigation. first reason we think that is bluntly because james comey said so yesterday under oath twice. the other reason we believe that the special counsel bob muller is investigating whether there was an obstruction of justice is because of this. >>...