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Section 793 of the espionage, dissemination and retention. so far we only have the retention, at least with respect to this recording and it's not clear if that alone is sufficient to charge. if there is evidence that he was showing classified documents, then it really is game over. >> glenn, fall up on that because the question is taking the documents to bedminster, we know there so some obstruction issues with refusing to give them back when they were asked for. this takes place before they send documents back. we know there have been conversations with staffers about how, hey, do the securi...

Information. it is fairly routine. i see all the time, in my cases. roy's issue here is that as you reported and cnn had reported, that trump and his inner circle were told how to properly classified and these classified information. assad even further, because i independently verified it, that they were instructed in the days and weeks before leaving the white house for the transition on how to pack up the documents, so as not to take ossified formation. this really goes further to the obstruction issues, and everything that we're starting to see, if true, but we have to listen to the media t...

What is at issue here is that as you reported and cnn had reported, that trump and his inner circle were told how to properly classified and these classified information. i said even further, because i independently verified it, that they were instructed in the days and weeks before leaving the white house for the transition on how to pack up the documents, so as not to take classified formation. this really goes further to the obstruction issues, and everything that we're starting to see, if true, but we have to listen to the media that trump not only mishandled the information but also sough...

Though is that it's clear that the issue of obstruction is front and center here. perhaps in both of these investigations, and i remember back covering mueller -- bob mueller and the russia investigation that obstruction was also front and center. in the end, mueller did not make any disposition clearly on obstruction because this was a sitting president and the question was, could you charge a sitting president? and then that attorney general barr came in and said, you know what? you can't. you can't charge him, and i'm throwing out the obstruction issues. that would not happen in this case s...

Making on behalf of the administration, on behalf of don mcghan. so let's step back for a second. the house has been looking to try to get testimony from don mcghan including obstruction of justice during the mueller investigation. obviously he has a lot of information given the fact that he was a key witness in the mueller investigation. he was there as the white house counsel. now the fact is, there's a judge that's ruled that mcghan should provide testimony to the house inquiry, but the justice department now says that that's not appropriate right now. simply because the house has voted to ...