occurring -- a never before occurrence in the united states. a former president of the united states on trial in a criminal trial, but it is a spectacle that is unique. give us a little context because it can attract anything. it can be a carnival, donald trump wanted it to be a protest, it's not. it's attracting cameras, and it's just different. it's the trial of the century without cameras in the courtroom, they're outside. >> it is, and as we say all the time, you and all four of us, he's not guilty until proven guilty if he ever is. but the people who founded this country were not exactly anticipating that someone who was a president of the united states and even more who is seeking the people's affirmative vote to become president again would be on criminal trial, what, six months before the election, seven months before the election. it just boggles the mind. you know what i would love to do, i know "the reidout" has no investigative unit, but i wish