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Investigation, have told mueller's prosecutors. and i think that's the danger point for them. that's why they don't want the president to expose himself to oral questioning and that's why they're going to be extremely careful in answering any questions with the possibility out there that anything the president says could be contradicted by these other cooperating witnesses that mueller has. but you know, i've got to say, taking a step back, there's so much here that is really hard to figure out. i mean, to me, i don't understand why mueller has let this process drag on as long as it has. certa...

Rejected by his attorneys who believed that could set down a series of perjury traps. after the special counsel last week offered to tighten the focus a bit, giuliani andte sekulow today tried to narrow it even further, trying to shy away from t questions about whether or not the president committedo obstruction, in part because -- they are making the case the president has a vast executive power to hire and fire officials like former fbi director james comey. giuliani made clear today another problem they have is that mueller's team indicated earlier this year they might start wrapping up the...

On so long and as the president has said over and over, there's no evidence of collusion. but call me skeptical of this washington post report. i remember another washington post report, and you can google this from a few months ago saying mueller would do a report by june is what i recall on at least one phase of this, maybe the obstruction phase. and i guess they could say well, the president never sat down for an interview so he couldn't finish it. here's my point, that we've heard before that phases of this are going to be done by the beginning or the middle or the end of the summer becaus...

He lied under oath. so i think trump has an understanding of the difference and the importance of, you know, of restraining himself in that setting. >> if this does go to court and ultimately the supreme court, how long would it take? would it go into the 2018 campaigns? >> boy, you're talking about three levels of appeals. it would go to a district court, the dc circuit court of appeals, and then the united states supreme court. it's hard for me to imagine that could get done in less than three or four months. >> those are the two equities, right? you don't want to put him under oath, but you...

A lot of people, including coats and pompeo to get the message out that he was not under fbi investigation. how do you see this latest revelation? >> well i do think it is significant if for no other reason that it does get to the president's mindset. remember, this all begins the obstruction phase of the investigation. it begins with the decision to fire comey. the president asked for his loyalty, he asked him to back off of flynn investigation, and then he fired him. the president then tells lester holt he had russia on his mind when he did -- now the pushback from the white house is always ...